We are going to die

topic posted Wed, November 28, 2007 - 3:23 AM by  John
We are slouching towards Betlehem, and we are going to die.
We. Are. Going. To. Die.


One of these silly thoughts of pure hope I now and then entertain, is the possibility,
that things will grow worse, and worse, and worse, and even worse, and then some,
until something snaps inside the collective consciousness of humanity.

A pronoid episode, rippling through the cognitive-emotional level of the noosphere.
An epidemic of collective consciousness. A coming to consciousness through
collective pain.

Oh, and this is not a *meme*. No, no, no. This is not something to be safely watched
from a distance. This is not something you can put in a neat box, call either Peak Oil,
Evil Bush, Reptiloid Agenda, Illuminati Conspiracy, Nibiru Flyby, and be done with.
This is not something that is here to tickle your mind with the latest greatest doom
and destruction extravaganza, as if Apocalypto 2012.

This is the moment, when your bottom-most turtle is beginning to stir,
the one turtle you've been relying upon to not budge at all,
since all your sound moorings, all your careful cognitive construction work,
all your frameworks, all your schemas and sensemakings, are built upon
such bedrock, upon such a turtle, frozen and immobile.
This is the moment, when your turtle decides to pack up and head south.
This is the moment when all out of a sudden, all your carefully planned
thoughts, your very definitions of what constitutes such, suddenly turns
all wobbly.
This is the moment when rational thought, scepticism, cynicism, no
longer provides any solace.
This is the moment when your pollyanna optimism fails as well.

If you think about such a possible event, chances are this here post
is scaring the bejeebers out of you. This is precisely my intention.

This post, and the joy and collective sentience John goes on prattling about,
might actually have precious little to do with any garden variety joy.
John is perhaps not at all about love&light, any saccharine new age fluffy joy at all.

Ah, I get it, John is putting this post here so as to compare and contrast,
and he will soon return to his old lovely harmless silver-lining diplomatic self.
No, that's not it at all.

Ah, now I know, he's just temporarily pissed with the human condition,
having watched one too many Darfur documentaries.
No, that's completely untrue, that's not at all it, either.

Ah, but surely, John is not intending for this here post to be anything other
than a rhetoric tour de force then, a flaming manifesto for the enlightened,
a rhizomatic call to arms for nomadic thinkers?
No, no and no. It's not, and that's not it.


We are slouching towards Betlehem, and we are going to die.
We. Are. Going. To. Die.

I don't mean this in any symbolical sense at all.

We are, a great deal of the collective we, here referring to all of humanity,
going to go down in flames, due to a great many of us, being stupid,
stupid to the point of invoking a series of collapses, catastrophes
and cataclysms, that will result in a great many casualties.
Such invocation due mostly to our own preferred mix of sins.
Mostly sins of omission. The good we choose to not do.
The evil we project upon the other.

The only thing that worries me, is that many of you reading this, has such formidable
powers of repression and sublimation, and thus of resisting letting these words, resisting
any reality behind them, not letting them sink sufficiently deep, denying the catalytic intent.


Which is why I return to the beginning.
Things will grow worse, and worse, and worse, and even worse, and then some,
until something snaps inside the collective consciousness of humanity.
This includes you. Yes, you. The very fabric upon which you form your conscious
thoughts will go through a sea change.

In the midst of such utter confusion and utter despair - a pronoid episode.

The confusion, fear, anger, desire to project away upon others, despair,
repression, all these are real enough. The only thing that is silly with this
post is the hope. So let's just say I'm silly then. I'm ok with that.
posted by:
John
Sweden
  • Re: We are going to die

    Wed, November 28, 2007 - 9:34 AM
    here's another silly thought from another sillywilly

    my bottom most turtle has begun stirring already
    i trust that the structure of me upon that turtle of love
    is flexible enough to survive the flexing
    i embrace the change
    and eventually
    this physical vessel will die
    will the i inside as well?
    will this soul return intact?
    a chills and thrills spectacular!
    i shall stay tuned
    and experience the episodes to come
  • Re: We are going to die

    Wed, November 28, 2007 - 10:42 AM
    yeah ~ what you described happened to me back in 1997 ~ psychotic episodes, the doctors said ~ they even said that my heart stopped & I had to be shocked back to this world ~ even though I was tripping harder than I ever had before, without the help of ingested substances, I could tell the doctors were all grasping at straws to adequately explain what was happening to me in medical terms

    my life flashed before my eyes ~ I was communicating with non-physical entities ~ I understood that my life, as I had know it was over & I was glad to be done with that sad mess! I could finally see beyond it..... I didn't even know how much I had craved this reality crushing change ~ that I had been slowly losing the battle of blocking my own intuition from my conscious self

    so what if everything was now unfamiliar & my family & friends upset, desperately attempting to re-train me & restore their sense of illusionary security, pressuring me to play along ~ it wasn't my intent to frighten them, but even if I wanted to, there was no going back for me

    critical mass had been reached
    the wave moved through me
    & continued on

    I knew that it would happen to everyone ~ each in their own way ~ with their own details & their own priorities ~ in their own time
    & although this was undoubtedly the most painful thing I had ever experienced
    in hindsight (ten years now), it was the best thing that ever happened to me

    I am way too stubborn & skeptical to have been reached by anything less than death in its many forms
    but death is not only an end ~ it is a beginning

    Soul Coughing ~ Screenwriter's Blues
    www.youtube.com/watch

    love all-ways,
    mem
    • Re: We are going to die

      Thu, December 13, 2007 - 3:35 AM
      These are lovely and precious replies, apologies for not having replied sooner,
      it was a bit painful for me to give birth to this thread, so I needed some time
      to digest and transform. I believe I have some assorted 2c to add to this, from
      the 2012 tribe, meanwhile, just going to bump this baby to the top.
      Thanks y'all, for posting, reading, being here. You have, each and everyone of
      you, made a very real difference for me. Never ever forget that. Thanks for being here.
  • Re: We are going to die

    Mon, December 17, 2007 - 7:50 PM

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    She is Dancingtopic posted Mon, August 13, 2007 - 2:53 AM by Kundalini delete entire topic

    She is Dancing
    She is Dancing
    The Daughter has Joined the Mother
    She is dancing she is dancing
    The Father Fire has joined the Mother
    She is dancing she is dancing
    Soon
    Soon
    we will all see Her Dancing
    and to survive that sight
    to not shatter
    to thrive
    expand and grow
    you will have to match Her beat
    The Father Fire has joined the Mother
    the burning has begun
    He has yielded the field
    She dances alone
    until we remember the Face of our Mother
    She will Dance
    Dance us to our Fall
    or Dance us to our Awakening
    She is Dancing
    She is Dancing
    Remember the Face of our Mother
    Only She can Free you now
    The Father has left the field
    and gifted Her with his Fire
    Remember her Face and it it is the Flame of ascension
    She is Dancing
    She is Dancing
    Forget her face and it is the Flame of Destruction
    and nothing will rise from the ashes
    The Void will claim you one last time, one Final time.
    She is Dancing
    She is Dancing
    She is Dancing
    Remember the Face of our Mother
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    Kundalini
    Chicago
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  • Re: We are going to die

    Sat, March 15, 2008 - 2:27 AM
    People who fight back and help the world turn the corner will - I believe - be ALIVE now.

    And, I think that's a good place to start.

    The Big World Gathering
    • Re: We are going to be reborn...

      Wed, March 19, 2008 - 1:22 PM
      Very true. I was a bit in a slump when I started this thread.
      Something was being reborn in me at the time.

      It's a start, yes. It always starts like this -
      right in the big pile of old stuff slowly
      decaying.

      Keep the flame, the spirit and the good deeds,
      starseed eyes, and open hearts everyone.

      Soon now...

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  • Re: We are going to die

    Thu, March 20, 2008 - 9:13 AM
    went through that phase over a decade ago. . . the truth is we're all going to die, it's the price we pay for living. the real question is : what are you going to do with your life and which frequency are you going to live on? there are really only two frequencies: love and fear
  • Eschatology of the Feathered Serpent

    Fri, May 2, 2008 - 5:53 PM
    Not all of us, I think, are going to die. You and I might. George W. Bush's twins may live. Life is weird. Like that old dinosaur doctor in "Jurassic Park" remarked, life will find a way.

    My prayer is that when it comes, my death should come fast. That it should be a good death. Watching a 500 hundred foot tidal wave roll in or slip-sliding along the Earth's mantle as the poles do their somersault, now that would be OK. I'm not picky, though. We exist at many levels. Down here, a simple SPLAT works.

    We gotta all stop with this eschatology, especially when it's anchored in Newtonian frameworks. It doesn't matter how many people are enlightened down here. This is Flatland. Real causation comes from the nether levels. This is the periphery of the wheel. Real causality comes through from the hub. You can have 2 billion monkeys down here, all of them enlightened. They couldn't "cause" the kind of Revolution that we need. We need more than pronoia. We need a bloody miracle.

    What might cause the "changing of the rules," however, is right under your feet, literally. I speak of the Great Particle Accelerator currently being constructed under France and Switzerland.

    I do not pretend to understand it, but its properties are absolutely radical, absolutely unique. I am not so interested in the Higgs Boson's future as a "black hole that will swallow up the Earth," but I am willing to speculate on its ability--once created--to redefine certain key the relational laws between Matter and Consciousness.

    My assumption--which may be false--is that this is happening now because of some parallel changes in the element of Earth.

    The Particle Accelerator of which I am thinking is due to come on line in or around 2012, possibly even earlier. I have a good friend, Cal Tech trained, etc., and he is also a theoretical physicist. and mathemetician. He suggested that there's a real possibility that that the Higgs Bosom could act a little like Ice-9 in Vonnegut's novel "Cat's Cradle."

    Vonnegut was a nihilist, so his Ice-9 isn't my Ice-9. What he didn't "get" was the Love and pure Knowing at the center of things. His was an ode to absurdity. I'd be singing a different kind of song. I wouldn't mind a little something like Ice-9 'bout now. It might not kill things. It might bring them back from the dead.

    Screw death. One moves from Judgment in the Tarot to the World. Isn't that where we want to go?
    • Re: Eschatology of the Feathered Serpent

      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 6:14 PM
      there's nothing 'wrong' with Death ~ it's just a stage of a larger cycle that continues on ~ no worries!

      & there's no lack of 'miracles' to go around ~ they just happen so frequently these days that sometimes they are easy to take for granted

      love all-ways,
      mem

    • Re: Eschatology of the Feathered Serpent

      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 7:44 PM
      Just to be clear, while posted publicly, my min-rant was intended as a direct response to our friend John, who started this peculiar thread. :)
      • Thanks for keeping this thread alive and kicking!

        I've re-read it myself.

        This is one of those things that actually can be
        interpreted:

        We are slouching towards Betlehem

        Re-reading it, it might be the beast, slouching, is
        the aspect within ourselves that is dying. The part
        in each one of us who is prolonging the suffering.
        Who *is* the suffering.

        And in the very same moment -
        a brief glimpse of aligned gyrating around the
        center void, out of which - collective presence.

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